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Santa MonIca, CalIfornia
SEP 11 1984
TO:
FROM:
Mayor and CIty Council
Arts CommIssion
SUBJECT:
RecommendatIon to Approve the 1984-85 Art
Plan for the Percent for Art Program
INTRODUCTION
ThIS report recommends that CouncIl approve the 1984-85 Art Plan
for the Percent for Art Program and expendItures of $93,958 to
Implement It, as proposed by the Arts CommISSIon.
BACKGROUND
At ItS meetIng on April 24, 1984, Council adopted ResolutIon
Number 6854, WhICh establIshed a Percent for Art Program.
Subsequently on May 22, 1984, the same ~esolutlon was adopted by
the Redevelopment Agency and the ParkIng Authority.
In general, thIS resolution mandated the Arts CommIssion to
coordInate the preparatIon of an Annual Art Plan for submIssIon
to Council.
ThIS Art Plan IS to Include the process by Which
SelectIon CommIttees WIll determIne the nature and location of
a~twork and a budget for the Percent for Art Program.
Also, the Art Plan IS to IndIcate the two categorIes Into WhIch
Percent for Art projects have been placed.
FIrst TIer projects S-13
are capItal proj ects of more tran $100,000 SUI table for on-sIte
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art. Second Tier projects are capItal projects of less tr.an
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$100,000 or capl tal proJ ects of more than $100,000 for which
on-sIte art IS unsuItable. Uses for Second TIer funds Include
increased allocatIons for FIrst TIer proJects, on-SIte art
proJects, and/or purchases of art for publlC dIsplay.
The Percent for Art Program was presented to CouncIl as one part
of the Arts CommISSIon's budget proposal. For FY 1984-85, WIth
the understandIng that addItIonal programmatIc deta1l would be
presented at a later date.
In accordance WIth these dIrectives, the Arts CommISSIon has
exam1ned the FY 1984-85 CIP Budget for 1tS applIcatIon to tre
Percent for Art Program. At ltS meetIng on July 16,1984, the
Arts Commiss1on voted unanImously to recommend that the follOWIng
Art Plan for the 1984-85 Percent for Art Program be adopted by
Counc il :
1. FOURTH STREET MEDIAN PROJECT
Background
ThIS prOject would be located
Ocean Park and PlCO Boulevards.
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along Fourth Street between
The prOject cost 1S $1,500
Selection CommIttee
The Selectlon Commlttee for this project 1S made up of Browne
Goodwin, Arts CommISSIoner j Stan Scholl, Director of General
SerVIces; and Myra Yoelln, Fourth Street reSIdent and artlst.
Sarah Tamor, Fourth Street reSIdent and artist, is acting as
an adVIsor to tris commlttee.
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Type:; of ~rtwork
The project cost 1S not large enough to buy a signif1cant
p1ece of art. In order to maX1m1ze the Impact of th1S money,
the Select10n Comm1ttee will be hir1ng an art1st(s)
des1gner(s) to work as a consultant to the General Serv1ces
Department to develop slgnage and/or landscaping along the
street. DevelopIng slgnage could 1nclude des1gnIng and
producIng a un1que "look" for 1nformat1onal SIgns or
developing a specIal treatment for regulatory slgns. Also
the Consultant w1ll work with the Recreat10n and Parks
Department to 1nsure that the Slgnage 1S compatIble w1th he
landscape design.
Select10n Process
The small scale of th1S project does not warrant a open
compet1 tlon of artIsts/desIgners. Therefore, the selectIon
WIll be based on the past work of InVIted artIsts and
deSIgners, as evidenced in resumes and personal interVIews.
The selectIon w1lI be made by the Select10n Comm1 ttee j no
other Jury w1lI be used.
Communi~y In~olvement
PublIC reVIew of the entIre Fourth Street MedIan Cap1tal
Improvement PrOject will be held by the RecreatIon and Parks
CommIss1on and the Arch1 tectural ReVIew Board. The pUblic
will have the opportunIty for review and comment on the
prOject at these meetIngs and at a meet1ng of the Arts
CommissIon.
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2. OCEAN PARK BEACH PROJECT
Background
The cost of thIS prOject is $46,300, which Includes the
followIng CIP proJects: Ocean Park Beach Improvements,
$40,000 (TIer I); Ocean Park Permanent Park, $5,000 (TIer I);
and Ocean Park Pilings, $1,300 (TIer II).
Type of Artwork and Selection Process
The type of artwork and the selectIon process to be used for
thIS project WIll not be decIded untIl after the Beach
Redevelopment Plan, as approved by CouncIl, has been approved
by the Coastal CommIssIon. ThIS portIon of the 1984-85 Art
Plan will be presented to Council after that date. UntIl
then, no expendIture of funds WIll be made.
3. THIRD STREET MALL PROJECT
Bac kground
The redevelopment of the ThIrd Street Mall IS a fIve-year
proJect, for WhICh a total of $10 to $15 mIllion may be
spent. DurIng FY 1984-85 (the second year of the proJect),
the ThIrd Street Mall Corporation IS to hIre a DeSIgn
Consul tant to work In the follOWIng areas of tre proJect:
facades slgnage, lightIng, graphics, WIndows, and
buildIngs. The Percent for Art project cost IS $2,600
(TIer I).
SelectIon CommIttee
The SelectIon Committee
Includes Max
Benavidez,
Arts
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Commissioner; Mark Tigan, Director of Community and Economic
Development; and Sarah Tamor, artist.
Type of Artwork
The Selection Committee will work with the Design Consultant
to determine an appropriate streetscape prOJect. This
project will conform to the Design Guidellnes for the Third
Street Mall.
Selection Process
The Selection Comm1ttee w1II work w1th the Deslgn Consultant
to determine an appropriate method for selecting
streetscaplng for the Mall.
Community Involvement
Tre public w1II have the opportunity to comment on this
project 1n a serles of publlc meetings, as outlined in the
Design Guidelines for the Th1rd Street Mall. In add1 tlon,
there Will be addl tlonal opportunity for publiC Input at a
meeting of the Arts Commission.
4. CIVIC AUDITORIUM PROJECT
Background
The total cost for this project is $5,000, whlch Includes
$4,000 from the Lobby Expanslon (Tler I) and $1,000 from the
Roof Replacement (Tier II). These CIP projects have been
combined in order to purchase a Significant piece of artwork.
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SelectIon CommIttee
The SelectIon CommIttee is made up of Max BenavIdez, Arts
CommIssioner; Peggy Gardels, ASSIstant to the CIty Manager;
Gary Ferguson, DIrector of tre CIVIC AudItorIum, and Gilah
HIrsch, artIst and art professor.
Type .of Artwork
It IS recommended that a sculpture be Installed in the
renovated AudItorium Lobby. ThIS sculpture, either
free-standIng or hangIng from the ceilIng I may be located
anywhere in the lobby. As the amount of money available for
trlS project is only $5,000, the sculpture will most probably
be created by a younger, emergIng artIst.
Selection Process
An open competition among artists WIll be held for thIS
prOJect. The SelectIon CommIttee WIll functIon as Jury In
reVIewing proposals and WIll be lookIng for the abIlIty of
the artIst to translate deSIgn Into product.
Commurll t Y In~o~y ~m~n 1::
The open competItIon WIll be announced and open to the
public. The public will have th opportunity for reVIew and
comment on thIS prOject at a meetIng of the Arts Commission.
5. PARKING STRUCTURE PROJECT
Background
The cost of thIS project (Upgrade Two ParkIng Structures) 15
$5,400 (TIer 1). It IS possible that thrs sum could be
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Increased by $10,000 from other Department of General
ServIces Funds.
Selection CommIttee
The SelectIon CommIttee consists of Max BenavIdez, Arts
CommIssIoner; Stan Scholl, DIrector of General Services; and
Judy Baca, artIst and muralIst; and an adVIsor from the Third
Street Mall Corporation.
Type of ~rtwork
The SelectIon Committee recommends that a mural be 1nstalled
In the interIor of the entrance to one of the parking
structures.
SelectIon Process
As specIfIed Hl the Percent for Art ResolutIon, the CIty'S
"Standards and Procedures for PUblic Murals" must be used for
thIS proJect. An open compet1tIon for mural proposals WIll
be held. Also, the eX1sting Arts Commission Mural Jury will
be used 1n thIS select10n process. Th1S Jury conSIsts of
Glenna Bol tuch, artIst; FaIth Flam, art h1stor1an; and John
GIven, urban planner.
CommunIty Involvement
In addit10n to the publIC announcement of the open
competItIon for this proJect, there w1Il be opportunItIes for
public review and comment on 1t as 1t 1S reVIewed by the
ArchItectural Rev1ew Board, the ThIrd Street Mall
CorporatIon, and the Arts CommIssion.
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6. ART BANK
Background
The total cost for thIS prOject IS $17,100. ThIS fIgure
includes a carryover of $3,600 from FY 1983-84 (TIer II) and
$13,500 from General Fund prOjects In the current elP budget
(TIer II).
The purpose of the Art Bank IS to function as a repository
for artwork selected by the Arts CommIssion or ItS
representatives and purchased for the CIty of Santa MonIca.
The work of both resident and non-resIdent artists will be
consIdered for purchase. The Art Bank WIll make the artworks
accessible to the general public through exhIbItIons and
loans. The Art Bank collectIon will be dIsplayed In the
InterIors and grounds of publIC spaces such as City Hall.
schools, lIbrarIes, and parks. The goals of the Art Bank
are:
1. To brIng contemporary art Into the enVIronment and lIfe of
Santa MonIca.
2. To encourage both emergIng and established artists by
supporting and purchaSIng theIr work.
3. To acqUIre a dIstinguished art collection for the CIty of
Santa MonIca.
4. To document the hIstory of contemporary art In Santa
Monica.
SelectIon CommIttee
The eXIstIng Arts CommISSIon Art Bank Jury WIll functIon as
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the select10n committee for this proJect. This Jury, whose
membersh1p changes every year, 1S composed of Elyse
Gr1nstein, art collector, arch1tect, and Board Member of the
Santa Mon1ca Arts Foundat1on; Tom Jenk1ns, art1st; and Ruth
We1sberg, artist, art crltlc, and art professor. Members of
the Jury are drawn from the Art Bank Advisory Comml ttee, a
twelve-member community-based board appolnted by the Arts
Commlssion. Tris committee is chaired by CommisS1oner Brurla
Finkel.
Selection Process
In order to be famlliar w1th artwork as 1t 1S created, the
Art Bank Jury wlll go out into the commun1ty and into greater
Los Angeles four hmes durlng 1984-85 to look at and select
artworks for purchase. Durlng these tlmes, the Jury w1ll see
artworks llsted 1n the Santa Mon1ca Bay Art Reglstry
Cmalntained at the Santa Mon1ca Publ1c Library); ViSlt
art1sts's studios and art galler1es; and meet w1th art1sts,
cri t1CS, collectors, and dealers. The Art Bank Jury may
cons1der artwork of any media for purchase. After v1ewlng
artwork and making ltS select1ons, the Jury will present its
recommendations to the Art Bank Adv1sory Comm1ttee for reVlew
and d1Scuss1on. The artworks recommended for purchase will
then be presented to the Arts Commlsslon for final approval.
Community Involvement
The Arts Commlss1on will announce to the community that
purchases of artwork for the Art Bank wlll be made. Art1sts
1nterested 1n being cons1dered for the program will be
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encouraged to subm1 t slldes of the1r work for 1nclusion 1n
the Santa Mon1ca Bay Art Registry. Women and minorities w1ll
be espec1ally encouraged to reg1ster their work. The publ1C
w1II have tre opportun1ty to review and make comments on
artwork selected for the Art Bank at meet1ngs of the Arts
Comm1ss10n.
7. PALISADES PARK PROJECT
Background
Th1S prOJect 1S a T1er II proJect and costs $3,100. Th1s
flgure 1ncludes $1,275 from the FY 1984-85 CIP budget and a
carryover of $1,875 from FY 1983-84.
Selection Committee
The Selection Comm1ttee for this prOJect IS made up of
Lindsay ShIelds, Arts Commissioner; JIll Abramsky, Recreat10n
and Parks Commiss1oner; Don Arnett, D1rector of Recreat10n
and Parks; and two commun1 ty representatives: Noel Korten,
art gallery director and Sarah Tamor, artist.
Type of Artwork
It is recommended that a sculptural seat/funct10nal bench be
comm1SS10ned for use in PalIsades Park. Th1S piece would not
obstruct the view and would be decorative, w1th the
poss1bil1 ty of be1ng Sl ted near the Pergola. Also It 1S
poss1ble that trls p1ece could be the fIrst 1n a ser1es of
art1st-deslgned benches.
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SelectIon Process
An open competItion for thl s prOJ ect would be held. The
artIst's past work would be revIewed by the Selection
Comml ttee along WI th a sketch for the proposed bench. The
Selection Committee WIll function as the Jury.
CommunIty Involvement
In add I tion to the publ ic announcement of the open
competItIon for tins proJect, there WIll be the opportunIty
for public reVIew and comment on It at a meetIng of the
RecreatIon and Parks Commission and the Arts CommIssIon.
ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS
AdmInIstratIve Costs for all Percent for Art projects total
$12,958 (13.8%). Actual expendItures up to thIS amount WIll be
made for such expenses as Juror fees, printIng and maIlIng,
offIce supplies, consultant fees, documentatIon, unusual
maintenance costs, and mileage.
BUDGET/FINANCIAL IMPACT
The follOWIng table outlInes the expendItures that would be
necessary to fund the 1984-85 Percent for Art Program, as
proposed. These amounts have already been set-aside for Percent
for Art projects as part of the approved FY 1984-85 CIP budget.
1984-85 Percent for Art Budget Summary - TIer I and II
ExpendItures: (by project)
1. Fourth street MedIan Project (I)
$ 1,500
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2. Ocean Park Beach Project
46,300
a. Beach Improvements (I)
$40,000
b. Permanent Park (I)
5,000
c. P11~ngs (II)
3. Th~rd Street Mall Project (I)
1,300
2,600
4. C1V1C Aud~torium Project
5,000
a. Lobby Expans~on (I)
b. Roof Replacement (II)
4,000
1,000
5. Parking Structure Project (I)
5,400
6. Art Bank (II)
17,100
7. Palisades Park Project (II)
Admlnistrative Costs
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3,100
12,958
TOTAL $93,958
Sources: (by fund)
1. General (includes $6,250 carryover from FY 1983-84) $34,783
(01-740-560-000-902)
2. Redevelopment 45,600
(15-740-560-000-902)
3. Auditor~um 5,800
(32-740-560-000-902)
4. Park~ng 6,300
(77-740-560-000-902)
5. Parks and Recreatlon 1,475
(53-740-560-000-902)
TOTAL (as above) $93,958
Not all funds that have been set-aslde, however, are belng
recommended for programmatlc use in the Percent for Art program.
This is due to the fact that many CIP projects were determlned to
be lnappropnate for appl~cat~on to Percent for Art proJects.
All CIP funds not used for Percent for Art projects w~ll be
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RECOMMENDATION
The Arts Commisslon respectfully recommends that Councll that
Councll:
(1) Approve the 1984 - 85 Art Plan for the Percent for Art
Program, and
(2) Authorize the transfer of funds between capltal budget
program categorles as detailed above to return funds
not needed for the Percent for Art Program to the
speclfic capltal proJects origlnally budgeted.
Prepared by: Davld Lutz, Dlrector, Arts Commlssion
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INTER- DEP ARTUENT llEMORANDml
DATE:
September 14, 1984
TO:
Councilmember Conn
FR01>l:
City Clerk
SUBJECT:
Percent for Art -- Councll DlSCUSSlon of
September 11th
Attached for your use (as requested) lS a transcrlpt
of portions of the Council discusslon on September
11th In regard to the Percent for Art progran, for
your use in communlcatlng wlth the Arts CODmlSSlOn
on the subJect at their meeting on September 24th.
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Attachrrent
cc: Mayor and Councllmembers
(If you wlsh a copy of the transcrlpt,
please telephone me (458-8211) and I
wlll provlde a copy.)
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TRANSCRIPT OF PORTION OF MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL MEETING
, HE'Ll? SEfr.~MBER '1'1 I, '1984"
AGENDA ITEM 5-B: Recommendation of the Arts Comm~ss~on to ap-
prove the F~scal Year 1984-85 Art Plan for the Percent for Art
Program.
(Staff report given--not ~ncluded ~n transcrIpt)
(PresentatIon by Arts Commission ExecutIve Director DaVId Lutz--
not ~ncluded in transcrIpt)
Cm ~ennin~s:
Frankly, I kInd of recall that, WIth respect to
the annual plan, that we were go~ng to see what the art work was,
IS there any partIcular problem about not us approvIng the art
work, cause I thlnk, probably we don't want to, but rather that
after the declslon has been made, some klnd of presentatIon is
made to us so were at least made aware of what the dec~sion has
been
Lutz:
I would be happy to do that.
We 1.'111 be
selecting art work throughout the year, so that It wouldn't be,
In a case where I would be able to present It all to you, but as
we make selectlons at quarterly or semI-annually, whatever works,
I would be happy to come back to you and let you know what it is
we are propos~ng to buy.
Cm Reed:
Have you checked wIth the ParkIng EngIneerIng
staff re the advlslbility of haVIng quote unique look unquote or
special treatment for regulatory traff~c slgns.
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Lutz:
Staff Scholl, D1rector of General Serv1ces 1S a
member of that select10n committee and he has been present at all
committee meetings and I am sure that that committee would not be
d01ng anyth1ng, particularly w1th Stan's participation on 1t,
that would go aga1nst Stan's Parking and Engineer1ng staff.
~m Re~d:
You have much more fa1th than I do. I mean, I
really wonder about the adv1s1bllity of hav1ng traff1c regulat10n
slgns ln a part of the c1ty that are dlfferent.
I thlnk there
are certaln need to have those signs to be standard1zed.
Lutz:
There are standards, and what I believe what
the comml ttee was proposlng was not to do anythlng that would
actually change the slgns, but, for lnstance, 1n the C1ty of San-
ta Barbara, they are put ln k10sks along State Street that con-
form w1th the look of the ent1re of State Street and all the
street furnlture includ1ng slgns are all housed slm1larly, so lt
is still a stop slgn, standard stop slgn, 1t lS Just mounted on a
structure that conforms to the look of the street.
em Reed:
You are not going to get State Street for
$1,500.
Lutz:
No.
HPT Press:
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On the park1ng garage proJect, your talklng
about that 1n very general terms, there are a couple of questions
I have and one 1S, What 1S the cr1ter1a for selection about which
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one of the parking garages would be the first proJect, do you
know?
Lutz:
No, I don't know, not at thIS time. That deci-
sion hasn't been made. The commIttee was gOIng to be going back
(interrupted)
HPT Press:
It hasn't been made?
Lutz:
Not of WhICh of the two, no. I am certaIn that
If you have recommendatIons of WhICh of the two, they would be
happy to consider that.
MPT Press:
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No, not partIcularly.
I am merely curIOUS at
what the crIterIa IS to choose, IS what I am Interested In. I
have no partIcular preference. The other questIon IS, the maln-
tenance of the parkIng garages of course IS paId for by parkIng
assessment participants, bUSIness partICIpants in the area, what
sort of, how would they be consulted and Included so that they
would not perhaps be outraged at whatever is chosen, Slnce they
are paYIng for the maIntenance of the garage?
Lutz:
ThIS declsion WIll be run by the Third Street
Mall Corporation Board, SInce It IS in that part of the cIty, and
we will be askIng for their Input on that.
HPT Press:
Okay.
em Reed:
Also, on your mall proJect, you don't lndlcate
there are going to be any mall people on the selection commIttee
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and It seems to me that, I agree wIth Mrs. Press on the parkIng
garage and I thInk you can extend that same concern to the mall
proJect.
Lutz:
that.
that.
That was an oversIght, and I'm sorry about
I have talked with the mall staff and we WIll be dOIng
Hay~~ Edwa~ds: I have a questIon, on the Jurors fees, for ex-
ample, on the Fourth Street medIan proJect, you have a selectIon
commIttee, do you Intend to pay one of the people on thIS commIt-
tee a Jurors fee for selectIng the proJect.
Lutz: We can If they are not CIty staff or board and
commISSIon member.
H~y~~ ~dwa~~~: That is a concern of mIne, cause you put
together a board and all but one IS in fact, the one person that
IS not, your consultant is a former Arts CommISSIoner, we have a
100 commISSIoners for free and I don't see why, for example and
ex-commISSIoner comes back to advise on something In her neIgh-
borhood, why she should get a Jurors fee, I thInk It 1 S a waste
of money and It IS unfaIr to 100 commISSIoners who are In thIS
CIty. If these people are Involved and have an interest, I don't
see, what are you IntendIng to gIve the Juror, for example
Lutz: When we came back to you with the second staff
report last WInter, It was an Issue that the CouncIl wanted
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clarified, and I bel1eve that a cap was set of a maximum of, 1n a
given year for any Juror, $600.
~ayor:- ,~d: I th1nk that is outrageous 1n th1S case. You
conV1nced me when your talk1ng about a maJor artwork, bring1ng 1n
a renown artlst, but 1n th1S case your br1ng1ng 1n a neighborhood
person, who used to be a commlss1oner, to pay them a fee, well
you got e1ght rema1ning comm1ssioners work1ng for free, it is
unnecessary and lt 1S a waste of money and I can't support that
idea.
em Reed: Maybe we should make a rule that no C1ty reS1-
dents would be ellg1ble for Jurors fees and just, poom, leave 1t
at that.
~~~.or Edwards: Not only that, lf you a sltuatlon where you
have volunteer comm1SS1oners d01ng everyth1ng 1n the C1ty, glve
some rationale or why you have to pay a Juror, Just because some-
body (lnterrupted)
em Reed: There are other clty resldents on some of these
other Jury comm1ttees, who probably shouldn't get a Juror fee.
Hayor Edwar:-~~: Not even that, we have people who spent
hundreds and hundreds of hours on the Land Use Element for free
because they are concerned about the C1 ty and Just because you
have the money, I don't know that somebody because the1r selected
should get $200 - $300 to make a selection.
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~m Jen~ings: I thInk what your saylng lS you want some
strong rationale for why that people should be paid anythIng.
~ayor Edwards: If were talklng about commissionlng an artwork
WhICh I would support that is gOlng to cost the CIty some money
and you make a ratIonale for a selectIon for some renowned art-
ists, we don't have to bring up the thlng about the poster com-
mittee, but something of that nature, but to have a city resident
partlclpate with Cl ty staff and volunteer commISSIoners and but
for the fact that that person is not on the COmmlSS1on and then
in this one case of the Fourth Street medIan project the person
you p1cked was a former COmmlSSloner who was dOIng all thIS for
free and I don't know why suddenly thlS person should be glven a
Juror's fee. They were certaInly volunteerlng theIr tIme
beforehand.
Lutz: If I can respond to that. I would hate to See
the Arts CommISSIon exclude partlcipation ln ltS decISlon makIng
process Slnce most of our meetings take place durIng the day, not
everyone can take off work, and I would lIke there to be some
compensatlon for those people who do Indeed need It.
Mayor Edwards: I would like to see a ratIonale, we have a
HOUSIng CommISSIon, a CommlSSlon on Older Americans that meet
dur1ng the day, and we have a CIty Councll that makes $50/month
putting In a lot of tlme, and I would lIke to see a rationale
before someone is glven $300 to help p1ck a proJect 1n the
communIty.
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em Conn:
I have a problem Wl th this dlScusslon, if we
want to debate this at thIS pOlnt, I suppose we can, but It seems
to me Mr. Mayor, that you had called for a questlon of staff and
I think that perhaps thlS is a dlScuss10n that we ought to have
after we have from members of the publ1C.
Mayor nEdwards:
That's true. He has answered my question about
the payment of the Juror I S fee.
We do have a member of the
publ1C who wIshes to speak.
Cm Conn:
I th1nk that 1f there 1S a problem that we have
w1th paY1ng Juror's fees then we ought to d1SCUSS Juror's fees
and solve thelr problem.
(Member of the publIC, Brurla Flnkel spoke to the matter--not
1ncluded 1n transcr1pt)
em E{lstein:
I would like to move adoptlon of the program as
proposed wlth the following changes:
I would llke to delete the
Fourth Street medlan project and the Art Bank and dlrect the Corn-
m1SSIon to come up WIth proposals for public sculpture to allo-
cate those funds and secondly to spec1fy that Jury fees only be
paId for major acquls1t1ons or proJects.
Cm Reed:
Second.
Cm Epstein:
I I d like to speak to that If I may.
I favor
the idea of publ1C art.
I th1nk the level of expend1ture is a
reasonable one although, I, 1n the past have not agreed WIth the
method beh1nd thIS program, that 1S not the 1ssue before us. I
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th~nk the Pal~sades proJect is a very good one. I th~nk the idea
of a sculture 1n the lobby of the C~v~c Aud~tor1um, assuming a
good one ~s chosen, ~s qu~te wonderful and would enhance, what I
think is a rather ster~le environment there. I'm concerned that
the $1,500 for the Fourth Street median proJect is really not
enough for a major outs1de work of art and really ~t seems to me
that there is some klnd reaching for someth~ng that isn't going
to be effect~ve. I think the consistency of our s~gneage, g~ven
that were surrounded by Los Angeles, 1S an asset to our commun~-
ty, I don't think we ought to mess w1th that and 1f the purpose
is to p1ck new vegatat10n for the 1ns1de I am not sure that lS
really the baliwlck of the arts proJect to p~ck some other klnd
of vegatat10n for landscape purposes. I am concerned W1 th the
Art Bank because, I think before we get 1nto acqu1s1 t10ns and
sort of a collect1on, a float1ng collect1on of artwork, that
there are plenty of publlC spaces where we could have maJor
th~ngs that everybody could see. Places l~ke Clover Park or
Hotchk~ss if you want to t1e ~t ~nto Fourth Street. I th~nk that
would be a more appropr~ate use than k1nd of gOlng around and
buy~ng artwork that people on the Jury happen to l1ke. I th~nk
we have to be very carefule W1 th th1S because art 1S something
that people feel very strongly about and if we don't do th1ngs
the k1nd that everybody can see and d1SCUSS and enJoy, I th1nk
the program ~ tsel f may be 1n danger. I watched the 60 m~nutes
program last Sunday about the Dutch Welfare State and they have
an enormous art program, and some of 1t I sure lS very good, but
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they also buy alot of art that gets warehoused. I am not sug-
gesting that we are at that pOlnt yet. But I thlnk there are
thIngs we could do to Insure that we don't get there, especially
at the beglnning of thIS program. I would rather see one or two
really Interestlng outdoor sculpture projects for example than
buying a bunch of prInts or paintlngs and we don't know where
they are going to go.
em Reed: I support Mr. Epstein1s motion because In large
part I agree wlth his comments and crltlclsms. For me personal-
ly, the most exciting thlng that was referenced In thIS whole
plan was PalIsades Park art project WhlCh I happen to thlnk was a
very nIce Idea and probably ought to be extended to some other
parks In the CIty too. The real concern that I have IS one WhlCh
I brought to the table when we were dIscusslng the whole Percent
for the Arts process, and I objected to the fact of Includlng
street projects and Sewer projects and thIngs lIke that In the
Percent for the Arts Program and this is a good example of what
happens. You end up with a project WhlCh is not a huge project
and therefore does not generate a large sum of money In the case
of Fourth Street, only $1,500. So you end up not beIng able to
do something so you end up talking about hlring a consultant to
fIgure out some landscapIng and vegatatlon for you. The cIty
Recreation Department already has people on thelr staff that do
that klnd of stuff. The Cl ty went through a whole process to
have approved lnnd of street trees I and it doesn't seem to me
that you would really want to spend thIS klnd of money this way,
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and so I think what has happened 1S you end up with a project and
a sum of money so you have to scratch you head to thInk about,
well, gee, how do we get rid of this money on th1S part1cular
proJect. Now, I would much rather see that money 1nto Mary
Hotchkiss Park Wh1Ch happens to abut the Fourth street area, be-
cause I thInk you would prov1de something that more people would
enjoy if they could walk up to and look at rather than just some
sort of landscap1ng or special treatment for boulevard stop
sIgns. So I guess I would have to say that I don't support the
Fourth Street plan at all and I think that the community is not
ready for an Art Bank. I don't thInk that thIS 1S the place to
put our money 1n the beglnn1ng. I thInk that DaVId 1S rIght, we
have to have more ways the publ1C can relate happIly to publ1C
art and put It Into places where people can see 1t. I thInk the
mural projects are projects people by and large enjoy and sup-
port, the Idea of mak1ng the parkIng lots different by giVIng
them d1fferent art treatments or murals IS a good idea and one
the publ1C w111 undoubtedly respond to. And I th1nk a better
expend1ture of funds that sort of builds a constItuency, but Just
you know, haVIng a CETA program for artIsts basically I which is
what thIS Art Bank esent~ally sounds lIke on paper, Isn't neces-
sarIly gOlng to bUIld pUblIC support because It Isn I t gOlng to
expose enough of the publIC to what 1S be1ng produced. I mean to
my way of thinking, 1t would be better to have the public vote on
the slIdes that are in the slIde program over at the lIbrary so
that they could p1ck what they wanted the clty to buy rather than
have three people go out and decide what they wanted to buy and
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you could have II ttle votes every year In the Ilbrary and have
d1fferent cho1ces and the people could say what they llke and the
city can buy it and hang it up in the library. That would make
more sense.
Cm Conn: I have a questlon of staff. I guess I want to
address thls to Dav1d. The, in my memory, my memory falls me 1n
terms of the selectlon, the process of Tier I and Tler II, and I
know that we d1d that because we wanted to solve some problems
and 1t sounds llke were not solv1ng any problems or we have cre-
ated some problems. For example, does the 4th Street medlan
project require us, becasue It 1S a Tler I project cause of ltS
slze, to put $1,500 1nto 4th Street.
Lutz:
That 1S my readlng of the resolut1on.
em Reed:
Could we put It lnto Mary Hotchk1SS Park?
Lutz:
It is reqU1red to be on-s1te.
em __Epstein:
1.t 1.S on-s1te.
It 1. 5 VI 51. bl e from the street, 1 t seems to me
Cm Conn: That is the argument we are gett1ng ourselves
1nto is that we trying In fact to, meet some concerns about where
the art went and how it was tied to the project 1n trY1ng to
solve th1S issue of streets and sewers rather than suggestlng
that in fact, we have an art plan that says okay we have $92,000,
what l5 the most vlsible way to spend 1t In the Clty on art any-
where, when 1n fact we wanted to tle it to proJects. I guess my
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other questlon I have is the Art Bank, is that a way of prlmarlly
dealing with Tler II? (Lutz sald yes) All of those are smaller
projects that ln fact we couldn't do anyone on-51te, because the
amount so small but that cumulatlvely lt amounts to (lnterrupted)
Lutz: What we feel to be a slgnlflcant way of spend-
lng off-sIte money.
Cm Conn: And do we have the latl tude in the resolution
that we adopted for the Percent for the Arts, do we have the
latitude of spendIng thIs $17,000 in one place?
Lutz:
combInatIons.
No, we can spend It In any, a variety of
Cm Conn:
Any way we want to. Any combInation?
Lutz:
Yes.
Cm Conn:
dIscussed
Sl.erras.
Sorry I am askIng these questl.ons, thIS was all
at the last meetIng at WhIch was on vacatlon In the
':Iayor ,Ed~.~rds: You mean the last Arts Commission.
dISCUSS It here.
We didn't
~m .Conn: Right. The last Arts Commlsslon, when I was
also ln the SIerras. Well, I know that the CommIssIon dId a
great deal of work to try to come up some allocatIons, but I am
wonderIng whether, In fact, the CommIssIon needs to take lnto
conslderatlon, CounCIl'S comments In regards to the plan, and
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have an add1t10nal meeting to reflect on it an then br1ng it back
to us. The Comm1ss1on may say no, this 15, in fact, the way it
ought to be spent, in light, despite the comments of the Council.
Th1s 1S the f1rst t1me we've done th1s, I'm concerned that we do
it as effectively as possible both in terms of the city and set-
ting precedence for the future. The Council did ask for thIS
right of review of the Arts CommIssion's purchase program for a
year at a time, and I thlnk that it 1S entIrely appropriate that
we take whatever deliberatIons are necessary to come to as much
concensus as we can about what that program ought to be for the
year. I don't know whether Counc11members are so perhaps, I am
shootIng blind.
M~y~r ,~dwards: I Just want to make a comment. My concern
about the Jury fees 1S not the same as WIth the rest of the re-
port. That IS a flne area, and I th1nk 1 t 1S someth1ng we de-
bated when we flrst set up the Percent for the Art, 1S what is
the threshhold at what pOInt we really have an on-51 te project.
I don't know that $1,500 on the 4th Street med1an 1S that thresh-
hold or not. That IS a close call and we may want to put some-
th1ng In the 1mmedIate ne1ghborhood or maybe there IS someth~ng
that could be done on 4th Street and I happen to support the Art
Bank. The Jury fee though 1S a concern of m1ne because we are
not only blessed w1th 600 art1sts 1n th1s commun1ty we are
blessed w~th thousands of people who put hundreds of volunteer
hours and I don't care what trad1t1on ~s, the fact is, 1f every-
body else 1n the city 13 putt1ng 1n alot of t1me for free there
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are alot of artists dOIng the same thIng. Some of the people
that you list as potentIal Jurors were also applicants to the
commissIon who indIcated that they are wIllIng to put In tIme for
thIS community. I might also point out that Jurors that are
asked to rule on the lIfe or death of a crImInal get $15 a day.
So I don't know that we need somebody that rules on a sculpture
should necessarIly get $200-$300 per day.
em Reed: I thInk that Mr. Conn's suggestIon IS fIne wIth
me If he would lIke to have the commISSIon have an opportunIty to
reVIew our comments before we vote on the whole package or alter-
nately approve the ones that we are WIllIng to approve and send
back to them our comments the ones that we had questIons on. For
myself I Just think that Its gOIng to be vIewed as a kind of
wasteful expendIture of the 4th Street money In the manner In
WhIch IS outlined In the report and If they wanted to spend It in
some way that made an art enhancement In Mary HotchkISS Park
WhICh IS one whole block of 4th Street nght In that same area.
I would have no obJectIon at all IncludIng a mural on the rest-
room bUIldIng or a sculpture or some other sort of proJect lIke
that. I wouldn't have any obJectIon at all, It Just seems to me
to be very SIlly to spend that money on a consultant to eIther
deSign sIgns or landscapIng. The Art Bank I have more substan-
tIve concerns about and would be happy to dISCUSS It further wIth
the Arts Commlssloners. But I Just thInk thIS lS the wrong place
to start wIth that particular money. I would almost rather see
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them have a bench program that went either wIth more benches In
PalIsades Park or put them in other parks too.
em Zane: I agree wIth 4th Street comments, I do thInk
the money would be better spent or perhaps even combIned with
other resources for more sIgnificant work that the community as a
whole would appreciate to a greater extent. WIth respect to the
Art Bank I do thInk that the Art Bank proposals 15 not Inconsis-
tent wIth suggestIons that Councllmember EpsteIn made regardIng
the nature of the Items to be purchased as I understand It. It
1S perfectly possIble for a slgnifIcant sculpture as you sugges-
ted be part of the Art Bank acqu1s1 tlon. It IS not exclusIvely
paIntIngs. Howeverl I would lIke to say that for us to presume
that publ1C art is only to be In outs1de spaces where people
m1ght drIve by or walk buy or shoppIng I what have you that IS an
Incorrect notlon. The lIbrary after all IS a publIC space and
very very many people in thIS communIty use It and there are many
other simIlarly Indoor spaces that can be enhanced by public ac-
qUIsItion of art If 1t 1S done prudently. I thInk what we are
delIberating here is how we are gOIng to express the prIde thIS
community has and how we are going to materIalize that prIde and
develop In a concensus an approach. The Council, I thInk IS Just
as 1S WIth other programs llke Commun1ty Corporation a vital part
of Its longev1 ty In assur1ng the program lasts long enough to
have more than sImply a dent In our COnSClenceness here. I would
lIke to see us develop that kInd of concensus process. Mr.
Conn's suggestIon that the Arts CommIssIon delIberated on that
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seems to me not entIrely necessary because I concur on the ques-
tl.on of 4th Street.
I th1nk those funds ought to perhaps be
J01ned w1th funds in the Art Bank program. I th1nk the Art Bank
suggestions you made In your motl.on are l.n fact consistent wIth
the program as outlined. I would llke to suggest that you modify
your mot1on to reflect that observat1on and that that become part
of the mandate the COmml.SS10n understands itself to be work1ng
with 1n thl.s program.
Hayor Edwards:
I would move the meet1ng be extended past 11:00
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HPT Press:
Second. (all aye by voice vote) I Just want to
say on the 1ssues that have been brought forth 1n th1S mot1on
that I also think that because that park 1S so attract1ve to the
neIghborhood and there 1S alot of ch1ldt"en that I have Seen
there. I th1nk that having somethIng that is read1ly accessible
that 1S not, which someth1ng that IS 1n the mIddle of the traff1C
is certa1nly not, and I th1nk that there should be some conSlS-
tency 1n slgns and maybe that is not something we should get 1nto
an art1stic mode about.
Therefore, I do support the park pro-
posal that Counc1lmember Reed has addressed. I also support the
Art Bank.
It seems to me, I don't know, 1t 1S not clear to me
why the city wouldn't be ready to, lf we have an Arts Commisslon
which has now been functlon1og for 2 1/2 years, it seems to me
that 1t is approprlate that the obJect1ves that are spelled out
here to begIn the, it l.S merely a repos1tory for an accumulat10n
of the art work that wlll be d1splayed 1n many C1 ty places, at
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ci ty hall, schools, parks and librarIes, eta., It IS merely es-
tablislng a place where once that art IS accumulated that It
WIll be kept. To begin with that, It seems perfectly appropriate
to me. I guess there is not, I think that thIs IS definItely the
VIew of the minorIty, but I do want to go on record and say that
I do support fees for Jurors and on the Arts Commission, particu-
larly, of course I also support paYIng CommIssIoners so that
comes in to play here. So the, I thInk there are people on the
Arts CommissIon, there are busIness people, etc., on the Arts
CommIssIon and also some profeSSIonal artIsts. Now I would not
favor some sort of a publIC vote about art. Because I thInk that
what the end result would have to be somethIng that would be the
average of the aoncensus of the publIC and I don I t thInk that
mIght not be so hIghly desirable aesthetIcally. So I feel as
that It IS very important In these selectIons that professIonals
be present and makIng thIS deCIsIon. ArtIsts are certaInly not
the most wealthy people In our communIty and I thInk that If we
called this an art consultant, maybe then we would be more WIll-
Ing to spend thousands of dollars lIke we do all the tIme for
consultants for everythIng. So maybe we ought to call It an art
consultant and then maybe the $300 fee would seem very reasonable
because God knows we have never pald a consultant $300 for any-
thIng. So that 15, we are talkIng about the spIrit of our city.
We are taHnng about somethIng that WIll be part of the dally
lIfe of pedestrIans, the people In cars, the people in publIC
bUIldIngs, etc., WhICh wlll lift our spIrits and appeal to our
senSItIvItIes and to our emotIons. A fee of $300 does not seem
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fees for jurors.
~m Epstein:
Okay, I'm going to try to take into account the
comments of Councilmembers and maybe reVIse the motIon, hopefully
WI th the consent of the second. The motIon wou~d be. that we ap.~
~rove the plan as_propo~ed wIth the exceptIon of the Art Bank and
the Fourth Street medIan proJect, that we ask the Arts CommIssIon
~o gIve further consideratlon_ to returnIng with_a recommendatIon
r1 t;tv-
that would. Iryclude the $1,500 for IC!_~rth .$.~reet and some. w-Eiuld be
<!;~'c TIer II funds for aSIgniflcant PUbIC art prOject In the vIctnltr
of Fourth Street and to consIder some of the other concerns
raIsed by the CouncIl and gIve greater speciflcIty to the _~xpen-:
<!-Iture "of the .r,emain,l,n,~.. ,(l.!!Ids ,~nd also t/? c_onsl.der t.he COMments
of the CouncIl In relatIon to c~~te~ia for Jury_expendlture~. In
other words, the thIngs we agree on, we can pass tonIght and let
them take another crack at the part that we dIsagree on, if that
is acceptable to Mrs. Reed as the second.
Cm Reed:
That IS fIne.
Cm Jennings:
SInce we are baSIcally statIng what we thInk
what we want to see when it comes back If this motion passes, I
suppose I ought to say too.
I don't necessarily oppose any of
these particular thIngs that are here In thIS proposed plan, but
I am not entirely sure that two thIngs were not taken Into ac-
count. It sounded lIke from what I heard from Mr. Lutz that the
Arts Commlsslon conSIdered an on-sIte and on the street wIth
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respect to Fourth Street and they haven't necessarIly considered
that in the park mIght be on-site. And the other thIng IS two,
in respect to the Art Bank, I would like for the Arts CommIssIon
to consIder the problem about, It doesn't do us any good to have
an Art Bank that SIts someplace and doesn't go anywhere and
doesn't get used. At least consider that problem In lIght of the
experIence in some places hke Holland.
Hopefully that won't
ever happen here. But If we are gOIng to send It to them and If
they consIder those things and they say thIS is stIll what we
thInk IS best, then I wIll support It.
I Just want to make sure
all those thIngs got fully consIdered by it.
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one thIng and tha IS, I thInk that one of the thIngs we need to
do In this CIty IS to spend a small amount of money, lIke $1,500
In a major capital improvement to see what the involvement of an
artIst would be WIth the result of the artIst Involvement in that
kInd of publIC work proJect.
There are other CItIes that have
experImented WIth haVIng an artist Involved In the process of
ImagInIng and conceptualIzIng a publIC works project and that
that has turned out to be a very creatIve process.
It has been
visually eXCIting ~n the streetscape. And I thInk 4th Street, In
fact maybe a communIty willling to accept that k~nd of experImen-
tatlon and that we, In fact, that Ocean Park is that kInd of com-
munlty and that would be a good place for us to do that kind of
thlng and so, desp~te the Council's reluctance to see that kInd
of thing happen, I thInk that It could be an eXCItIng project.
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In terms of Jury fees, I th1nk 1t 1S very lmportant for us to pay
Jury fees on major Jury proJects, to pay someone $300-400 for
three or four days work in professional expert1se IS really an
1mportant th1ng for us to be able to do. I th1nk that perhaps 1f
some of the spec1f1c situations 1n this proposal that are concern
to the mayor and perhaps others, so perhaps there 1S some way in
Wh1Ch we can, the comm1SS1on can look at that aga1n and come back
w1th some cr1ter1a that makes sense.
Cm Zane:
I would llke to make an amendment to the mo-
t1on. My amendment to the motlon is that the Jury fees that the
cOMm1ss1on come back w1th an elaborat1on, propose an elaborat1on
of the POllCY on jury fees.
I a~ sympathetic w1th the arguments
the mayor has made w1th the 1nequ1ties of paY1ng someone and not
paY1ng others for the1r commun1 ty serV1ce.
I th1nk there are
arguments to be made that you can 1mprove the qual1ty of selec-
t10n by being able to 1nterest people who are outs1de our com-
mun1 ty and participate 1n th1S process. I would llke to have
that, a POllCY that is sort of elaborated.
Cm Epstien: If that was not clear that that was part of my
rev1sed motion, I accept the amendment to clar1fy.
Cm Zane: The th1ng about your mot1on then that I'm con-
cerned that I can't support it 1n the current form 1S that makes
the Art Bank program appear to be all on hold. I would l1ke to
have the Art Bank program proceed w1th the1r, w1th that program,
but dOlng so would the advise and counsel of th1S Counc1l about
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the nature of those acqUISItIons,
such as they have heard
night.
My motion would be that the, my amendment IS that the
Arts CommIssion be dIrected to proceed wIth the Art Bank program
but to Include In the development of the acquIsitIon program a
concern for the comments of the CouncIl, IncludIng not limItIng
their acqUISItion program to Interior, but also Include the pros-
pect of acqUISItion of maJor exterIor pIeces such as sculptures.
MPT Press:
Second.
Cm Conn:
I really appreCIate what Mr. Zane IS gOIng
after, I am not certaIn thIS solves the problem and that if In
fact the CommiSSIon has the opportunIty to look at It thIS month,
we can come back and I don't thInk the Idea of an Art Bank 15 a
dead Idea. That is not what I heard out of Mr. EpsteIn's motIon.
Mayor Edwards:
Do you support Mr. EpsteIn's motIon?
Cm Conn:
I don't have any problem WI th the motIon be-
cause we are gOIng to come back WIth some, my understanding is
that the Commlsslon WIll look at the Art Bank 1ssue and the
Fourth Street Issue and come back wlth some recommendatIons to
CounCIl, and at that p01nt the CommIssion may come back and say
we want the Fourth Street and we want the Art Bank Just the way
we sald we wanted it the fIrst tIme. If so we have lost 30 days,
big deal.
_~ay'or . Edwards:
Any more discussion on the amendment then?
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c~ Epstein: I Just would like to hear from the Arts Commis-
slon, because one of the lssues is how much money will they need
to add to Fourth Street, they aren't really going to know what
they are gOlng to spend, I would rather have their response on
this and you know they wlll be going forward Wl th some of the
other proJects so I would prefer to let the Commission to respond
to our comments, that is what we put them on the Commission to
do.
M~y~r: Edwards: I am gOlng to support Mr. Epstein's motion. I
Just want to remlnd the Councll that ln a sense by doing thIS,
they really are getting 1n an area they swore they would not want
to get lnvolved In. My concern agaIn With Fourth Street 1S per-
haps decId1ng what the m1n1mum threshhold lS and lett1ng the Arts
COmm1ss1on dec1de. If we start saYlng well okay get 1nvolved 1n
this but don't get 1nvolved ln that you are all d01ng what exact-
1 y you sa 1d you d1dn' t wan t to do when we formed the Comml SSlon
and that 1S gett1ng involved ln each proJect. My concern agaln
1S a fInal note on the Jurors, aga1n IS there 1S a major proJect
in WhlCh expertise is needed, that is one th1ng, but when you
have a Commlsslon made up of a voluntary Parks Commiss1oner, a
department head, all of whom are voluntary in that nature and are
volunteering their time, to pay an expert, it is a contrldict1on
because 1f a Parks and Recreatlon Commlssloner and somebody from
General SerVlces IS an expert enough to get pald or 1sn't an ex-
pert enough to make the dec~slon they shouldn't be on the comm~t-
tee. If they are on the commIttee, you have made the assumptIon
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that maybe common sense prevalls over professlonal1sm.
any other discuss10n on the amendment? All 1n favor
Zane's amendment say aye.
The amendment falled by a vote of 3-4
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Councilmember Epsteln's main mot1on was approved unanlmously 7-
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SA'ITA r-DNIC4. ARTS FOl.J}..'DATION v
7/26/83 Councll approved creation of a non-profIt COrpora-
V3l p383 tIon, the Santa ~onIca Arts Foundation, to
faCIlItate the raIsing of funds for programs of
Arts CommissIon and approval of art Ices and by-
laws of the corporatIon.
1~!8/33 A recommendatIon of Arts COmmissIon to appoInt
V32 p9 deSIgnated members to the Santa Monica Arts Founda-
tion was approved.
~2i'/a4 Councll approved Articles of Incorporation and
V32 p176 Byla'l;,,'S of Santa Mjnica'ArEsJ'O~bQ11-and mibal
-"SUiit-up" Loan tor :tundraISlllg purposes.
Bylaws arrended to prohibIt pohtl.cal carnpalgn
actiVIty.
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