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CM:JJ:dvm 5anta Monzca, Californ~a
Counc~ 1 Meet~.ng ~4/23/85
T0: MayQr and City Cour~c~.l
FROM: C~.ty 5taff
SUBJECT: Warn~ng Sz~ns Concern~ng F~sh in Santa Monica Bay
Intraduct:.on
This report prese~ts the mvst recent Znformat~an provided by the
State Bepartment of [~ealth Services regard~ng potential hazards
assoc~ated wzth consumpt~an o#' fish caught fram Santa Mar~ica ~ay
- Pa1QS Verdes Pen~r~sula area. It also pro~~des comme~t on
recent Cour~c~l request ta pasic signs in the beach area to alert
the public ta the potent~al health hazard.
Background
On Apr~l 11, ~985 the Californ~a Depar~ment of Health Serv~ces
re~~ased ~ts evalua'tion of pa~en~aa~ r~sks to h~tman hea~~h from
consuming f~.sh in 5a?~ta Mor~ica Eay - Palos Uerdes area
(attached), The area of przmary ^onc~rn ~.s th~ o~ear~ area
rang~~g from Gerald Desmand Bridge and Cabrillo Pzer in the south
to Veni~e Pzer zn the nor~h, a~d particularly 'the area around the
White Point Outfal~ off of the Palas V~rdes Penznsu~a. The
exzstence of a submar~ne canyon at Redondo, wh~ch pe~~e~rates
clase to the shore, acts as a trap for some of the wastes and
posslbly-contaminated waters mavi:~g ~p the caast.
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While the report was ~7conclus~~e in presenting se~entif~c data
to substa~tzate the expressed con~erns, the Sta~e Departmen~ of
Health recamme~ded certa~n actions as prudent. Mast natable for
Santa Monica, among the recammendat~ons, was ane to avoid
consumptia~ of White Croaker (a bottom-feeding fxsh). Other
recommendat~ons are set forth on page ~ af the attachme~t.
Szg~age
The Clty Coune~l has ~ndacated a des~re ta post war~ing sig~s ~n
the Ckty ~f Santa Monaca advzs?~g peaple f~sh~ng ?n Sa~ta Mo~~ea
Bay of the potent~al hazards of fish caugh~ from Santa MQ~ica
Bay.
At the present t~me, the ~ou~ty of Los Angeles is not
recammending add~tional s~gnage be pasted alang affeeted bea^hes
i~ the Cou~ty.
The C~ty Attorney has reco~mended that language of the szgn be
substant~ally in the follow~ng form:
WARNI~G
Eat?ng fish eaught ~n Santa Mon1~a Bay may be
harmful to your health because of ehem~cal
cantaminatzon. Yau should avo~d eat?7g the
follow~ng fzsh, commonly known as Wh~te Croaker,
Kangf~5h, or Tomc~d:
(Insert p~cture af Wh~te Croaker.)
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Add~.t~onal informat~on o~ the health hazards of
eating fzsh from Santa Mo!~ica Bay ~.s o~ file ~.n the
Santa Monica Harbor off~ce for publze ~nspect~.on.
~'he City Rttorney also recomm~nds that the s~gns be posted an
English, Span:.sh, and other languages of pe: sor~s known tQ
frequently f~sh i.n the C~ty.
Fiecommer~dation
It ~s reeommended that the C~.ty Counc~.I:
~) Authar~ze preparatzon af s~.gnage as recommended by the
C~,ty Attor~ey wa.th the fo3.low~:~g amendments:
- Attribute the wa;ni~g ta the State Departm~:~~ of Publ~e
Heal~h;
- Do not inelude pleture flf the White Croaker o~ the
?nd~vadual s~.gns but ha~e pictures ava~lable ~.n the
Harbor Offaee.
2) Prepare sig~s ir~ Spa7~s~ and Engl~sn. Have wr~tten
information available ~n iche Harbor Office :.n languages
of a~her persons commo~ily kr~own to frequer~tly f~sh in the
Cl~y of Santa Mon~.ca coastal waters, specifically
Vietr~amese and Korean.
3) Direct s~.gns to be posted or~ Santa Mor~i^a P~er, at the
entrances to all beaeh park~.ng lots, at~d at var~.aus
io~ati~ns alo~g ~he bea~h.
Prepared by: Jahn Jalzli, C~'~y Ma!~a~er
Attachment
(fishbay)
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C~P;;P.T,".~cNT L;r H~~LTH SERVICES ~~; ::_,
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~ ~e ':ono~ :ble i ort~ I'.ayden
`;em'~er of the .~+ssembly
State Capztot, Room 2]96
SaCran~~nto, CA ~5814
nc~a; ';r Y.ati*den
This i~tter is in re~ponse to your letter of Fet~ruary 28, i98~, req,:estir,Q
tha~ U-~e ^zY4r~^~e~yt of H~aith Ser~.-ices (D;:S) evaiuate ar~y poteatiai realtt~
r~s;ts "iat m~oilt b~ ~ssocia~ed ivlth co~su~^ption o£ `~sh fTOn1 ttSe 5anta
'~~en}~a Bat--P~les tierces Perf~nsula area
T~=t' fl•~r;~I'~;'eT7t'S FTIl(~P~1C1:0~\' r~17{j ~;0~.]CC?~.^,ff\ ~I'~rlC~'i [=T:Si - Y.~1^nm3C~0~'_C$~
Sc.,c,~s Section (E~S~ has now Comp~e~ea t}ie req~ested eva~~atlllfi U~sed on
c..rrert~~ e~_~t__,a cata T3-,e ma}orit}~ nf data s~ere contalned in the reports
of ~he 5outt=Ar:~ Califoril?a Coastal ~~a~er ~esearch P:e3ect (SC~S„?), a re}~or:.
~: __ :,aroi~ ^Lfier. et al, and catch rea~rts of the DeoaxtT~ent of Fist, and
~~.r~F 5ta~f 'r.atie also oeen an con~act wstti pe.sonr.~l fre~r the ~epartr^ent o_
~~ ._iif: .~"c_' ~'¢=~:~~ ~Li..':°T ~:e~~1~\ 1+~C~I'd. .`_.IIC;i'GF.?I~:It31 L'1C'~°C~sOIi
_-. .• SC~~,~.~=' _r,c c`;~r ~~:__e= ~_:?~;se _F'__,wnt sc~e~ --:~c _~-~ra:,:e
,. _s coi=~4tec ~ri~ ~sed as refer~nc° r~~aLer;~~ ~r. t~:~s z~'~iLaLiGI:
~s } o~~ r-ay kno~; , the usaal a~prnach tv e~~alu2 ~~:~~ the pate[lt-a1 n~~~~ heal ~l~
effects af -~: e~;~osure ~s to etiam~ne the scientifie ~ata on totiice?og~cal
ef fects, es ~_; ate ti~e e~~ected e::posuc es , a:3d then esti~atE the pot~i~c~al
r~~ks. This nas t~e sp~roac~: utiliz~d herP
?'he atiailable data indaeate that ~71e r~a~or cher~icals ar conc~rn are
diLt~lorodsphenyltr~ch?oroet~:zne (~flT), and its ~etaboli~es (e g., ~DE). and
t13e oal~•Chlorinated biphen~~ls (PCB) (See Tab~e i and 2)
Ir, essence, four genc:ral s~at~ments can be nade abaut the patent~al risks
associated svith e~pos~re to DDT and PCB in f~sh fror~ tY:e Santa '~'.onica Bay-
Palos t'erdes P~nznsula area First the le~=els of DDT and PCB in tr~~se f~sh
s'~osld r.ot cause anl~ short terrn health effects SQC~nd, althou~h ~DT and
PCB ha~~e ~;r~en reoorted to cause liver canCer in test anirrals, ttiere is na
ciear e~~ic::n~e of this i~i hu~:ans. Howe.~er, Di~S follo~,s ti,e lead of the
_nternat~onal Agency for Researrh on Carcer (T~+RC) in treat~ng koo~n animal
carc,nagens as potential ~;ur~an c~r~ino¢ens :;~erefore, for the pur~eses of
Lhzs r!s~ e~aluat~on, e7HS Cons~aers DDT ~nd PCB to be ~otentiai h~man
carc:nogens T~~rc~, there 1s no feasib3e sci~'ntifac r'~ethod to reliab~}
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a;.t:=:,ste. or conclusively exclude, t;e oecurrence of cancer resu]tang
f~c~ ~o+,sum~t~cn of fish from the area of concern nnd fourth, _n the
at,s~r~ce of Curre~t ati~ co~sp].ete expasure da~a, ^uHS ~oes Tnot feel t~at
speCific nur~eracal estamates o€ hurs~an r3sk can be r~ade t:ith an}' de~ree of
rellaoility 'ro~etheless, our p~elzn~nary evaluar~on sugu~ests that
~re.,t~~nt consu~pt~on of sia:-sificant a:ro~mts of j,i~~te Croarer fror~ the areas
arnt~nd ,:h3te Po~nt O~tfal~., Gerzld Des•~~ond Br~cge, ?^.d Ca'arz~?o Pzer
pro~abiy ~reser~ts :~sks s,h~ch e~ceed tnose gen~rally z~cepted for other
en~~iro ;•~ ental ~~.posures if tt~e consumptzon of these fish uere ta occ~r
to^tar~~:.~usl~ o~•c^ a ~ifetx;ne
as a ~es~lt of the abo~~e, the De~art~ent believes that ~nterim gi:idelines
s~.o~ld be ~ssued. ~ased on t3~e a~a~lable data, far the consunption of
s~~cr~°~s; 1^ t'~F ~:~a e~tPnd~n¢ fror,~ S:nt~ <<nn1Ca Bcy° f,aTound .'Pn1Ce ?le3r~
~e~.:L'rt.a.^a ~c Beii°o-it Fzer ?hese g~zdexines ai e znciudec :iere on a separate
s~~eet ~he Der~artr~ent fee]s that ~dherence to these guidelines kill
su~fic+°:~L13T rpd~Ce e?.pos~re to the che~~~~ca~s of Concern for fish taken
;ro~ tie affected area
_ ~_ ~~~C'?' `_}SP ~E,'Fd'.'i.'',°Tl~ f~els tt18~ 2(.~lt'_L~7'~~ '_':f01'IP~?~iOP. St10Ll~C, ~]° pt1C~='l~C
_:l r^~n,-. ~O ~.'~:"5~~_~° i~'~ "E~_~~_~icT'E CI:~Rti~fi'~1C-L' :iSK ~~SPSS~"PRi 3'7~0 [-l
i~Gie ~:;i:t':: °5~1:'c:i~ Oi ::Ui~~dF] I'1StC i0 ~I1~t Q:3C~, ut:~'J 15 I'~CQi'~TEi:CI1Tig t.^.CZ
tha D~partr~ent af F~sh and G~me fDFG), in cvncert s~ith 5tate and reg~onal
i~ater Qe~lit~~ Control B~ards, SCCS~,RP, the ~J S. En~-~.rcn„~ental ProteCt~on
agency, the _~; ~n¢eles Caanty 7epartment o€ :;ealt[~ Ser~*;Ces, and otr,er
rtle~~an~ age::~ es, obtain eurrent Gata on PCB and DDT ievels a.n fish from
t'r:ese ar~as Th~s should ~nclude inforr~ation on species d~~ferences, tr,e
relaticr.sh~p UP;.4•~een cook~ng and conta:rin~nt 1Qt•els, and t}ie infl~ence of
aoe of ttse f~sh on contam,nant le~els in that fish This data shQ~ld `~e
callected so that a ~lear un~erst~nc~Zng of the oeogra~hic variabilriy can i~e
ob4ained Similarly, th~ env~ranme~tal source of these ChemiCals should be
d~~er^~~ned ?'he T~IiS icauld he ~lease~ ~fl assist 3n ~esaonin# the sampllnp
p~an, :~.n~ch should be established zn ad~•ar~ce of further d~ta collectzon.
In ac?dlt~on, the BHS is recomr~endang tl~at the Los
of Healtn Services obtain C~rrent inforTation on
izsh iro~n *_'~is area, espeClally for non-~nglish
Cons~,,,~e iar~zr a;a.aunts of these f~sh. .~,a~n, our
to nroo~de techni~al assastance, if needed, ta t'.
Sealth ServiC~s
~ngeles Count~• Department
Lhe Co^sur~:ption af sport
speaktng ¢roups c~ho may
I3epartm•ent k~flvld ~e 1}ap~y
Ze LA Cat~nty Department of
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:~:.c~m~~~-~.an ii~1}C~G(1
a~rii ii, ~sa~
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I no~a that I t~is provic3es yoU with the in~ar;~ation ~ou ciesirec~ For more
~nforr.ation please ContaCt :~arid~e Gregor~, M.D., KCtahg ~ep~ty 13ireGtor,
rre~-er.tive ;~sal~h SerLices, at {9I6) 4y~-292~, or aiesander Kelter, :~ D
Cr~ef, E~~dem~oiog} ~nd Tohi~olog;.~ Branch at (916) 445-?~D2
S~ncerely,
Kennett~ k' Kzzer, +i ~}. , :+i P.H
D~rector
=c:c=csure
S~ASx v~>,L:-ll~~^.R'. 4-.:c:.~iN ..~~G '.t'E:F,~PF r.C.+tNCy ' ' ~ ~•[C^G~ «~iv~fc.•kN Go.e•nor
DEP~ R~ MEN~ GF HEALTH S~RV{CES
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1\iERi;1 G~:D~LI\ES FOR Rr,DEiCI\G E?iPOSI:~RE TD DDT '~.~D PCB FRO:~i SPQRTFISB
Y Cr';'t:GEi3 I~ f HE SA\TA ?~01ICA F3r~Y-- P~LCS C~ERF]G ~'E~ I:`~SULA ~?EA~~ T
1 :-~.~oid eating t~~t~ite Croakers (also ~alle~ Ki„gfish and Tomcod) .
? n~'C~Cl G'atiii~ :~:1y f15~7 ~,aLl~~ll 1:1 i~I'C'~3$ i~ i 2~1i_~F'Ij" d:OllC1d S'rl:1~E POIIII
Ct.tfal~ (near ralos Verdes P~n~*~suia), Gej•a~~ DPsmon~, Brid~e (an ~..orsg
Beacn ~~ar~oi~), and Gabri~lo P~er {in Lu~ tiE:aeles Harbor)
3 ~^ ~lot eaL tra 1 i~ er of anL ~ i sh
4 Preg;~ant or nusin, c+omen and s.anen of ch~ld--bear~.ng aoe should eat no
,are ±han ane loCal sportf~sh real per ,~;on~h (not ~o inC3ude any t4hite
Cr~.aicer) --_
5 1'o.~r.e ch;ldre*~ snould eat na -^ore than one laCal sportfish meal per
~anth (not to inclu~e an~• S;hite Croaker).
6 Othe_ inda~-iduats i+ho rou~inel}* consume sportf~sh from thnse a~•eas
s}iouid reduce their corsum~tior. of these fish to ane to ts+o ^eals (~ az
f~s~ ~~r ~~~al] per titeek or less ;not tc ~:~ciude an~ G~hite C~a~~er).
; Skin (if poss~~le) and re;no~-e ~r,} iatty issae s+~en preparana f~sr~ Caught
an 't~:ese areas .
8 Fish shoG~; be coo~ced h~ baking or h:oiling on ~ r~c4c to reduce the
Ie~~c~s o; ~~T ~~zd PCB in the edible por~ion
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TRANSCRIPT OF PORTION OF CI'FY CQUNCIL MINUTES OF THE CITY GOUNCIL
MEE3'ING HELD APRIL 23, 7985, AGENDA ITEM 11-B
11-B: RECdMM~I~DAT~ON REGRHDING WARNING SIG~S CONCEANING FISK IN
SANTA MONICA SAY ~
(Staff report presented, not in transcript)
(Counci~ dise~ssion and mations, not in transcript)
Public discussion:
Wayne Ha11: Thank you madam Mayor, Wayne Hall,
125 Pacific Street, No. 12, Santa ~4onica, the 5ierra Club, An-
geles Chapter. Qbjection is noted to t~e ex~r~eme].y irresponsib3e
manner in which the City of 5anta Monica has handled LY~is entire
affair relating to the toxi.c contamina~io~ of fish in the Santa
Mot~ica Bay wherein it presents a danger that is clear and present
ta the o~er 3 million users of the beach eaeh year. That is an
official statement. As private citizens we are very unhappy wi.th
the ~ery erude and pr~mitive way that City Manager Jahn Jali}.l is
attempting to cover up for the Mayor and Gity Counci}. by sh~fting
the name on these signs to the tirder of the State Health Depart-
ment ar to the L.A. Cotanty Health Departr~ent. Itz 198~ by ac~ of
U.S. Congress amending EPA law, it mandated that the City of San-
ta Monica be ttle monxtoring agency or the iead agency for the
westside Bay area. Clearly responsibil~tiy is tihe salely the City
of Santa Manic~'s. The City Council ahd the Mayar ha~e in fact
dragged their feet since 19$0. It should be noted that zn the
~etter the Mayor wrote me dated Apr~l i5, 1985, she admitted that
in fact in the pas~ we ha~e had discussions about the Santa Man~-
ea Bay. Actual~y going back ta 1980 when I first mentioned the
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at risk factor of carcinogenicty ta young fema].es, pregnant fe-
mal.es and young males and females under age 18. For every tirne I
have tried to bring this issue up~ the City Council has in fact
shUt off debate. This ha~ been done both by both fact~.ans o~t the
Cauncil~ the SMRR {he said "Smear") grovp and the Ail Santa Moni-
ca Coalition. Further it should be noted that for every minute
at every Council session, the Evening Ovtlook has had a reporter
but has in fact done nothing. I wauld tend to questian their
credibility as a newspaper because af this. On the Hyper~on
plant~ Madam Mayar, it is the ~zerra C].ub that has filed a law-
suit against Chevron U.S.A, a~d it does strikE me as a bit odd
and quite frankly rather peculiar that Mayor Reed was on the
Metropolitan Quality Water Management District and knew about it
as far back as 197b when the EPA began testing the Santa Monica
Bay. And it is in fact the Sierra Club'S Legal Counsel Debbie
Reams Csp??) that lzas filed and pursued the lawsuit~ and quite
frankly w~uld appear that the City af Santa Mlonica wil]. be next.
Further, we feel the that City Council, but especially Mayor Reed
zs indictable at the Federal level for ~ultiple en~iron~nenta~
health quality law violations, mtach the same as Rita Leville
(sp??) and Ann Gorsage (sp?), far which she could get ~ossibly up
~4 30 months ir~ federal prison.
Cm Edwards: Excuse me, Mr. Hall, what is your
saurce of a, that is your own hanciwriting, what is the saurce of
that repart? Did yau get that ou~ of a S~erra Club newslet'ter or
something?
Wayne Hall : - - - - - - What ~is that'~ -~b-out the lawsu~.~s? -- -
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Cm Edwards: You represent ~hat as a report or an
offical statement of the Sierra C~ub.
Wayne Hall: The first paragraph, anci then after
that (interrupted3
Cm Edwards: What report, I happen to me a memt~er
of the Sierra Club far the last 1d years and I read everythzng I
get and I have n~v~r seen that.
Wayne Hall: Are yoU talking about the lawsuit?
Cm Edwards: Ho, I would appreciate the eomments
that you made about Mrs. Reed and Mr. Jalili and so on, that you
bring in the copy that you copied that fr4~.
Wayne }iall: I did not capy it from anything
Mayor Edwards.
Mayor Reed: Co~Zd yo~ te].l. us tne par~ieular
meeting at which the Angeles Chapter of the Sierra Clud toak the
position that you referenced in your opening statement.
Wayne Hall: We had se~era~ discussions, I am `
talking abaut discussions I had with Joyce Caleman McGinn fsp??)
who is the top person Cinterrupted)
Cm Edwards: Are you a member of the Sierra Club?
Wayne Hall: Sir.
Cm ~dwards: Are you a member of the Sierra Club?
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Wayne ~all: Yes.
Cm Edwards: Why don't yo~ enhance your own
credibiiity, why don't yo~ brirg ~n the official natice of the
Sierra Glub rather than r~present that by your own handwriting on
P~P~r•
Mayor Reed: We would appreciate having a letter
from the Sierra Club which indicates that their Board ~aok this
position, if it is in fact a positian of the Angeles Chap~er of
the Sierra Club, Several of us sitting ~ere are members of the
S~erra Cl~b and we would in fact, I personally don't bel~eve the
Club wouZd want to have their name entered into this unless they
in fact t~ok the positian that you say they ha~e taken. And in
order for us tn knaw that tnat is the case we need to have it
from tnem an their statianary. And we would appreciate your
getting it for us. Thank yo~ Mr. Hall.
Cm Epstei~: Now you'~e made a statement that the
City's beEn co~ering something Up~ and I have been hearing these
statem~nts since before I was on the Council. I want ~o know
what the City is covering up, and I want to know what data you -
have to back it up.
Wayne Hail: Well, Councilmember Epstein, if you
look at the official records with the City Clerk, akay, there is
a~ entiire fo~der of data on f~ie that I have been submitting for
the past three years.
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Cm Epstein: ~ell me what the City is covering
up?
Wayne Hall: Well, very clearly, if you go back
to 1980, daesn't it strike you a bft peculiar that (interrupted?
Cm ~pstein: No~ I am asking yo~. You made an
accusation, you come up here and you accuse people ~f criminal
acts, and I want ta know what the City is co~~ring up? What is
the City doi,ng that they shouldn't be doing? BecaUSe if they are
doing something illegal, or dangerous to health of peaple of this
area, I want to know what it is?
Wayne E~all:
Scholl, the General Sertr
wrote that report on the
did testing at the Arain
no PCB's or DDT, but yet
past 4 years it shows up
Very ciearly~ in 198D, Mr. Stan
ices Director, was on the Commission tnat
Pico-Kentor (sp??) Drain Basin. They
Basin and at the surf line and they find
by tne State's awn reparts, for like the
in the testing of the samples.
Cm Epstein: So what these charges are about are
storm drains?
Wayne Hall: Well, ob~iously there is ~he
credibility factor there samewhere.
Cm Epste~n: So what you are saying is, what the
City is co~ering up is so~e kind of dangerous condition in the
storra drain?
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Mayor Reed: Da you have any statistics from the
State of California to show that the PCB's that they ha~e disco~-
ered in 5anta Monica Bay came from the Pico-Kentor (sp??) Starm
Drain or Existed ~n the surf lihe close to the Pico-Kentor starm
drain? Do you have any way statistica~ly to ahow that
con~ec~ion?
Wayne Hall: We~l, they do nat indica~e in ~heir
reports ather than at the outfall areas where they ha~e done
testing so far. Right now, State Ass~mblyman Tom Hayden is at-
tempting to get the money in the State Assembly to do that
testing.
Cm Conn:
Madam Mayor, point of proeedure.
Wayne Hall: It would certainly seem to me that
after the 1980 thing that there shauid be some ongoing testing.
Cm Conn:
proced~re.
Madam ~ayor, poi~~ af parlimentary
Mayor Reed; Thank yau Mr, Hall, Mr. Cann ~as the
floor.
(motfan and seeond and substitute motian and second to extend the
meeting past 11:~0 P.M., motions not in transcript)
Cm Edwards: I don't particularly want to harras
people who ha~e a right to come up here and address the Council.
Many peaple make statements tnat are their 4wn views and they may
or may not believe them. I think that most people ma~e an honest
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effort to express to them, ~r express to us what their feelings
are. But I think this is getting to somewhat of an excess, an~ I
think if Mr. HaZ~ is going ~o eQntinue to come up and tialk aba~tt
indictable offenses about,cover-ups then I would prefer that he
say these statements under oatih, ~eaause I think that nothing
degrades go~ernmeRt or tne reputation of indYVi.dua2s in gQVern-
ment more than the impliaatian that there is somehow wrflrrgdoa,ng
and that t~e public trust has been placed in that persan is being
abused, ar~d I don't think public officials have to take ~hat. I -
tnink if he wants to make those k~nds of statements, let h~.m make
ft under oath.
End of }~ub~ic discussion
(Remainder of Council disaussion not on transcript)
~N13 0~ TRANSCi~IPT
Prepared by the City Clerk's Office
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2410 RTEST BE~'ERLY BLZ~D., LOS A'\GELES, CALIFOR~t ~i 9d05 i
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MaS~ 3 , 1985
Joy M. Fullmer
1531 Sixth St., ~~14B
Santa Monica, CA 90401
Dear Ms. Fullmer:
T~-ank you for your letter regarding G~'ayne Hall and the City
of Santa Monica. I apologize for not responding to you sooner.
The Sierra C1ub Ange~es Chapter is in the process of deve~oping
a policy on the Santa Monica Bay and we hope to hav~ a special
task force at the Chapter Ievel in place shortly. At thi.s time,
no one has been authorized to speak on the Sierra Club's behalf
on this issue. Larry ~,acambe, as our water quality chairman,
has been follok*ing this issue and could provide you with the
specifics of Sierra Club general policy on ocean dumping and
toxics problems as it relates to the Clean Water Ac~.
The Sierra Clui~ has no intention of suing the Caty of Santa
Mon~ca. Thank you very much for bringing the matter to our
attention. Until May ~3~h, I wil~ be an jury duty. However,
if you would like to speak with me personal~.y about this matter
after that date, I would be most happy tn talk w~th you. My
direct line at the 5ierra Club is 213/387-8572.
I wi11 be writing tia the C~ty of Santa Monica short~q ta inform
them that Wayne Ha11 does not represent the Sierra Club. Again,
thank you for your letter,
Sincerely,
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Conservation Coordinator
S~erra Club Angeles Chapter
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SANTA MQIvfCA CALIFORNIA 90401
May 1, ~985
~1r. Elden Hughes, President
Angeles Chapter
Sierra Club
14045 Honeysuckle Lane
Whittier, CA 90604
Dear Mr. HUghes:
At a Santa Monica C~ty Counc~T meat~ng held Apr~l 23, 1985 a
member of the public gave test~mony and stated that he vras
repres~nting the Angeles Cf~apter of the Sierra Club. ThTs
person, Mr. Wayne ~fall, appears frequently before the Counc~l
ta comm~nt Qn matters rela~ed to toxic materia~s, hazardous
and ~ox~c -~lastes, etc. Apr~l 23 was tl~e first time that he
said he was represent7ng yaur organization. I am enclosing
a trar~script of h1s remarks a~td of the subsequent qu~stTans
by the Council.
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As our meetings are broa~cast i7ve ~n KCR~k (FM 89.9) 5everal
~f us feit it necessary to try to c~ar~fy th~ posit~on of the
Angeles Chapter. My husband ~s a long standing member of the
5ierra C~~b, and af tf~e Angeles Cha~ter, so we recezve a17 of
your neursletter5. I pay particU~ar attent~on to your posit~ons
on local matters, as does Council Member Edwards, a~d ~ve saere
quite tafcen aback by the comments of Mr. Hall. If the Angeles
Chapter has a pas~tlan on "...the manner irr wh~ch t~e C~ty af
Santa Mon~ca has handled this entire affair relating to the
tox~c contamination of fish ~n the Santa i~1onica Bay..." would
yo~ please forward ~t to us.
Thank you for yaur attention to th~s rnatter.
W~tn regards,
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