M-7/22/1975 (2)
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TRIVES
VAN DEN
STEENHOVEN
TRIVES
MCCLOSKEY
TRIVES
MCCLOSKEY
REED
TRIVES
COHEN
TRIVES
SWINK
TRIVES
MCCLOSKEY
TRIVES
COHEN
TRIVES
KNICKERBOCKER
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KNICKERBOCKER
TRIVES
KNICKERBOCKER
TRIVES
KNICKERBOCKER
TRIVES
TRIVES
VAN DEN
STEENHOVEN
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CLERK
TRIVES
CLERK
tj{)HEN
CLERK
MCCLOSKEY
EXCERPTS (ITEM 14-B) MINUTES OF JULY 22, 1975, MEETING
AS REQUESTED
The next item on the Agenda, I have on and I also have request
to be heard, I would ask, prior to having a vote on Mr. Edwards'
request to be heard, that I make one statement for the members
of the Council. We received a letter, that you all received
copies of, as far as 1'm concerned the only reason I put this
item on the Agenda was to let the record reflect that we had
received the letter. I would let the appointment stand and
would entertain a motion to receive and file the letter.
I so move.
Moved by Mr. van den Steenhoven. Is there a second?
Oh, you don't have a second, yet.
The chair will second the motion.
Maybe Mrs. Reed or Miss Reed should be consulted on this thing
before you go right out forward in the open.
It is fine.
The chair feels that after having discussed the matter obiviously
with Mrs. Reed, that the matter was not really Mrs. Reed's
but a matter of policy and we've received a letter and if
there is any member of the Council who wishes to discuss it,
the letter as it relates to policy, then I would urge that
we go to executive session to discuss that, not Mrs. Reed,
because Mrs. Reed is a member of the Council elected by the
people of Santa Monica (period), as far as I'm concerned. Now
we have a motion on the floor with that preface only, what's
the pleasure of the Council?
What's the motion again?
The motion's to receive the letter and file it.
As it relates to policy.
Call the roll.
Wait a minute - I want to talk about it. So you want to talk
about it here or somewhere else?
Just a minute, sir. We have Mr. Edwards' Item 14-B - 2/3
vote required. My first request would be personally to go to
executive session to discuss not Mrs. Reed, I refuse to do
that, and she does not want to be discussed in executive session.
I want the record clear on that, but I want to go to executive
to discuss one thing, that is policy. If the Council will
join me on that item, on that item alone, with the stipulation
that that's the only reason we're going in, I would ask to
go to executive session and hold Mr. Edwards' item in abeyance.
Does Mr. Edwards' want to talk on 14-B?
No. He indicated in the affirmative that he would yield to
us to go into executive session to discuss policy.
Excuse me. It would not be proper to discuss policy in
executive session because of the Brown Act. It would have
to be -
Policy between the boards and commissions - personnel matter -
without talking about an individual.
It would have to relate to the appointment or removal of a
particular person.
Which is a philosophical thing.
Yes
We can talk about that without talking about the individual.
That's right.
Thank you, we'll go to executive session.
(THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LEFT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS)
---that's the application regarding the correspondence to the
Council. The motion's on the floor what's the pleasure of
the Council?
Question.
The Clerk call the roll!
This is to receive and file the communication?
Yes
Mr. Cohen
Yes
Hr. NcCloskey
I'm going to vote "no" and the reason I'm going to vote "no"
is because I believe at this point, the interests of the City
can't be served without some definitive action by the Council
and to continue on in this present state in this situation
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CLERK
REED
CLERK
SWINK
CLERK
VAN DEN
STEENHOVEN
CLERK
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VANDEN
STEENHOVEN
SWINK
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UNANIMOUS
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simply leads to intimidation by one side or the other or both,
and I don't think in the long run it's beneficial to the
long range interests of the City.
Mrs. Reed
Yes
Mrs. Swink
Aye
Mr. van den Steenhoven
Aye
Mayor Trives
Aye
In respect to Mr. Edwards' item, what's the pleasure of the
Council ?
I move we deny his request.
I'll second it.
Moved and seconded. Discussion. All those in favor signify
by saying aye.
Aye
Opposed
None
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